{"id":727,"date":"2011-08-24T13:27:03","date_gmt":"2011-08-24T03:27:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=727"},"modified":"2011-08-24T13:27:03","modified_gmt":"2011-08-24T03:27:03","slug":"the-special-saviour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=727","title":{"rendered":"The &#8220;Special&#8221; Saviour"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Meg:<\/strong><br \/>\nSo why don&#8217;t you believe in God? I&#8217;ve always found that with most real atheists there is an actual reason rather than just a lack of interest.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nAnd also,<br \/>\nIn previous discussions I&#8217;ve noticed that there has apparently been other stories of saviours with twelve disciples etc. I have never heard of these parallels, so I can&#8217;t say whether or not they are true but I do know one thing for sure. Not one of these could forgive sins. Does this not mark Jesus as special?<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s certainly not a lack of interest.  Religion as a whole is not only interesting but fascinating.  It is rather a lack of evidence or convincing arguments.  At a certain point enough time had passed since my early indoctrination into Catholicism that the emotional connection had faded, so I was able to look at it with no strong bias, as a real agnostic.  As I did I realised I didn&#8217;t buy into it at all anymore, and had not replaced it with any other faith, and was therefore an atheist.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nWhile it&#8217;s been established that the individual features of Jesus&#8217; story are all fairly common in mythology, Jesus does apparently represent a unique combination.  For instance, while many gods have spent time in human form and many gods forgive sins, I know of no other story in which the earthly avatar himself was personally responsible for forgiving sins.  Here is a <a href=\"http:\/\/surge.ods.org\/idle_religion\/other_messiah.htm\">list of other crucified saviours<\/a>, and the reasons for several have to do with sin, but none of them appear to be quite the same.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nI suppose you could call Jesus special based on that, but it would mean that all comparable figures are also special in their own ways.  They&#8217;re all unique combinations, because they&#8217;re all at least slightly different.  The Hindu god <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Indra\">Indra<\/a>, for instance, is probably the only one who had to get wasted on the liquid essence of another god (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Soma\">Soma<\/a>) before fighting a serpent to get Earth&#8217;s water back.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nUltimately, even without devaluing the word &#8220;special&#8221; like this, the idea that Jesus was special among religious figures does not in itself support the idea that he was really a god, or rose from the dead.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Meg: So why don&#8217;t you believe in God? I&#8217;ve always found that with most real atheists there is an actual reason rather than just a lack of interest. And also, In previous discussions I&#8217;ve noticed that there has apparently been other stories of saviours with twelve disciples etc. I have never heard of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=727\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The &#8220;Special&#8221; Saviour&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[249,196,70,125],"class_list":["post-727","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-text","tag-forgiveness","tag-gospels","tag-jesus","tag-sin"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-bJ","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/727","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=727"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/727\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":731,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/727\/revisions\/731"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=727"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=727"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=727"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}