{"id":3760,"date":"2018-08-09T04:52:18","date_gmt":"2018-08-09T11:52:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3760"},"modified":"2018-08-09T04:52:18","modified_gmt":"2018-08-09T11:52:18","slug":"hell-paging-dr-rawlings-code-blue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3760","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Hell Paging Dr Rawlings, Code Blue&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Uriadka:<\/strong><br \/>\nDoes this prove hell and NDEs? This story seems really compelling, and prayer seemed to get a person out of hell, like many hellish reports:<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dwLJBSqrrfY\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dwLJBSqrrfY<\/a><br \/>\n<br \/>\nRawlings told the story of his patient who collapsed during a stress test, and \u201cbefore we could stop the machine, he dropped dead.\u201d<br \/>\n<br \/>\nWell, apparently not completely dead, because in the patient\u2019s own words,<br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u201cWhen I came to, Dr. Rawlings was giving me CPR, and he asked me what was the matter, because I was looking so scared. I told him that I had been to hell and I need help! He said to me, \u2018keep your hell to yourself, I\u2019m a doctor and I\u2019m trying to save your life, you need a minister for that.\u2019 \u2026 And I would fade out every so often, so then he would focus CPR again and bring me back\u2026Whenever I would come back to my body, I kept asking, \u201cPlease help me, please help me, I don\u2019t want to go back to hell.\u201d Soon a nurse named Pam said, \u201cHe needs help, do something!\u201d At that time, Dr. Rawlings told me to repeat this short prayer. \u201cI believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus, save my soul. Keep me alive. If I die, please keep me out of hell!\u201d<br \/>\n<br \/>\nThe experience of the patient, Charles McKaig, then became pleasant, and he reported seeing his deceased mother and stepmother and being surrounded and comforted by the Holy Spirit. Upon awakening, he was an immediate evangelical Christian.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nIn Rawlings&#8217; words, \u201cAfter this was all over, I realized what really happened. It was a double conversion. Not only had this make-believe prayer converted this atheist \u2026 it had also converted this atheist doctor that was working on him\u201d<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8220;Compelling&#8221; is a subjective term.  The sincerity of the patient supposedly compelled Dr Rawlings to accept Christianity; honestly I guess you had to be there.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nThis sounds like a great many <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?s=nde\">NDEs we&#8217;ve had described to us<\/a> here, with the added wrinkle that the patient was repeatedly coming and going.  This is a nightmarish scenario for anyone, and during the unconscious periods between consciousness and brain inactivity, what dreams might have come had every right to be hellish as the brain struggled to get a handle on its circumstances.  Once it was given a simple purpose &#8211; pray for salvation &#8211; perhaps it was able to regain some order and return to more peaceful dreams.  It worked so well that the sheer contrast between mental states had an indelible effect on both patient and doctor, and the subsequent dreams kept to the Christian theme.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nThis story doesn&#8217;t even attempt to serve as proof of a divine experience, the way some other stories do.  McKaig had an out-of-body sensation but didn&#8217;t learn anything about his surroundings that he wouldn&#8217;t otherwise have known.  He came back from clinical death but wasn&#8217;t miraculously cured of any conditions; he was a simple heart patient going in and coming out.  He had an experience in a traumatic situation, it ended, the world is no different for it except for the opinions of two people.  For the rest of us, it&#8217;s only the least bit &#8220;compelling&#8221; if you already believe in what they&#8217;re pushing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Uriadka: Does this prove hell and NDEs? This story seems really compelling, and prayer seemed to get a person out of hell, like many hellish reports: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dwLJBSqrrfY Rawlings told the story of his patient who collapsed during a stress test, and \u201cbefore we could stop the machine, he dropped dead.\u201d Well, apparently not &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3760\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8220;Hell Paging Dr Rawlings, Code Blue&#8221;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[560,561,6],"tags":[805,804,803,308,690,802],"class_list":["post-3760","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-faith-2","category-science-2","category-text","tag-charles-mckaig","tag-dr-rawlings","tag-maurice-rawlings","tag-nde","tag-near-death-experience","tag-rawlings"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-YE","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3760","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3760"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3760\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3762,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3760\/revisions\/3762"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3760"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3760"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3760"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}