{"id":3568,"date":"2018-01-16T03:21:12","date_gmt":"2018-01-16T11:21:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3568"},"modified":"2018-01-16T03:21:12","modified_gmt":"2018-01-16T11:21:12","slug":"ndes-when-hell-gets-repetitive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3568","title":{"rendered":"NDEs: When Hell Gets Repetitive"},"content":{"rendered":"

Question from Alexia:<\/strong>
\nHellish NDE consistency, potential proof:
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\nHere is Timothy LaFond’s depiction of hell after he was electrocuted and had a near death experience: “Besides the screaming of other people in torment, there were also demons. Yes, there really are demons! I could see their grotesque faces. They came up to me and taunted me with indescribable horror and fear — yelling in my face with such intense volume; things like: “We\u2019ve got you now!” Laughing and sneering at me saying, “We fooled you! We got you now!” \u2026 followed by hideous, evil laughter. ” “I somehow managed to cry out to God during this time, pleading, “Oh God – help me!” Again, “God – help me!” “He heard my plea. The right hand of the Lord touched me. I felt His fingers and thumb on my shoulder and He pulled me out of hell. He set me free from not only from the torments of hell,”
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\nNow this testimony by Joe Hadwin:
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\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Dn-PKUPYCg4&t=1002s<\/a>
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\nalso sees demons who say “I’ve got you now” 9:10 in the video
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\n14:06 he cries out to God, and his hand comes and saves him.
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\nThese are only 2 of many similar cases. Evil demons mocking people, beating them up, then they call out to God and a hand rescues them, how is this similarity so possible? How can so many people hallucinate this? They also claim to speak telepathically to God always.
\nDoesn’t this prove hell somewhat?
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\nAnswer by SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong>
\nSorry Alexia, the first link to Timothy LaFond’s testimony threw up malware red flags so I won’t share it. Folks can find it by putting “precious testimonies timothy lafond” into Google without quotes, at their own risk.
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\nIt seems that your only argument for the reality of Hell is the similarity between accounts. As I’ve written before<\/a>, this is not a strong argument because of the other possible reasons for it:
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\n“One, the standard NDE story is by now traditional and very well-known. If someone who\u2019s at least familiar with it has an ordinary dream or hallucination during a life-threatening situation, it is likely to follow the same pattern as it\u2019s what the victim expects on some level. If there is no memory or a fragmented memory of the period, the existence of this very specific expectation for the experience can shape a memory over time until it fits very well. And if someone just makes up an NDE story, they will deliberately follow the pattern to match the expectation of their audience.
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\n“Two, people going through the physical and mental states associated with near or temporary \u201cdeath\u201d are likely to have similar physiological reasons to experience certain things, even if they\u2019re not fully understood. The white light in the distance, for instance, is consistent with temporary tunnel vision caused by lack of blood or oxygen to the eyes, growing brighter when the supply returns. Scientific American<\/a> went into this six years ago.”
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\nSearch this site for the keyword “nde”. There have been a flood of questions lately, so there’s a lot to read on the topic. I think you’ll find it informative as a whole.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Question from Alexia: Hellish NDE consistency, potential proof: Here is Timothy LaFond’s depiction of hell after he was electrocuted and had a near death experience: “Besides the screaming of other people in torment, there were also demons. Yes, there really are demons! I could see their grotesque faces. They came up to me and taunted … Continue reading “NDEs: When Hell Gets Repetitive”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[560,6],"tags":[254,308],"class_list":["post-3568","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-faith-2","category-text","tag-hell","tag-nde"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-Vy","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3568","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3568"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3568\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3569,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3568\/revisions\/3569"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3568"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3568"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3568"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}