{"id":3456,"date":"2017-10-04T20:51:49","date_gmt":"2017-10-05T03:51:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3456"},"modified":"2017-10-04T20:54:17","modified_gmt":"2017-10-05T03:54:17","slug":"an-early-ticket-to-the-afterlife","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3456","title":{"rendered":"An Early Ticket To The Afterlife"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Douglas:<\/strong><br \/>\nDo people who commit suicide go to heaven? Just watched the movie &#8220;The Discovery&#8221; on Netflix.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\nObviously <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Discovery_(film)\"><em>The Discovery<\/em><\/a> is a science fiction story, not a documentary, but like all good sci-fi it&#8217;s intended to provoke people to think about the real world and where we&#8217;re headed.  Besides, (MILD SPOILERS) where they go in the movie isn&#8217;t exactly heaven so it doesn&#8217;t inform this question much.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t think people who commit suicide go to heaven, because I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s an afterlife, let alone a heaven, for anyone to go to.  The identity is destroyed with the shutdown of the brain and it no longer exists to go anywhere.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nRegardless, I&#8217;m against people committing suicide in most cases because of its straightforward consequences in this world: your own life ends with no possible chance of improving your circumstances or anyone else&#8217;s, and lasting anguish can be inflicted on those you leave behind.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nI say &#8220;most cases&#8221; because I&#8217;m also in favour of voluntary euthanasia or assisted\/accompanied suicide, when a person has reached a measured conclusion that continuing to live is too painful to justify any potential benefits.  Organisations like <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dignitas_(Swiss_non-profit_organisation)\">Dignitas<\/a> do a good job of making the decision and the action carefully considered, rational, compassionate processes with a minimum of drama.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nI&#8217;m aware of course that religious approaches to this question are very different.  If taking life is a sin, then suicide gives one no time to absolve or atone for the sin of taking one&#8217;s own life, so the shortcut to heaven is barred.  This has a practical religious purpose in both the religious and secular view.  For the religious, suicide prevents one from serving the mysterious purpose one&#8217;s deity has for one.  For anyone on the outside looking in, it&#8217;s a simple way of preventing belief in an ideal afterlife from sending a religion&#8217;s followers to an early grave and depopulating the religion.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nThe exception which gives a religious rationale for suicide is sacrifice.  If you get something important done by putting yourself in harm&#8217;s way, this might very well be your holy purpose, whether to be a martyr who gathers support or to take a lot of unbelievers with you.  So really, there are religious reasons both to die and not to die and you can twist it any way you want, which is dangerous.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Douglas: Do people who commit suicide go to heaven? Just watched the movie &#8220;The Discovery&#8221; on Netflix. Answer by SmartLX: Obviously The Discovery is a science fiction story, not a documentary, but like all good sci-fi it&#8217;s intended to provoke people to think about the real world and where we&#8217;re headed. Besides, (MILD &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3456\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;An Early Ticket To The Afterlife&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[563,560,6],"tags":[89,723,638,146],"class_list":["post-3456","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism-2","category-faith-2","category-text","tag-afterlife","tag-discovery","tag-heaven","tag-suicide"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-TK","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3456","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3456"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3456\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3459,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3456\/revisions\/3459"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3456"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3456"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3456"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}