{"id":3354,"date":"2017-06-21T04:43:41","date_gmt":"2017-06-21T11:43:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3354"},"modified":"2017-06-21T04:43:41","modified_gmt":"2017-06-21T11:43:41","slug":"a-dump-from-skeptiko","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3354","title":{"rendered":"A Dump From Skeptiko"},"content":{"rendered":"

Question from Mirek:<\/strong>
\nfor a long time, people have thought that Near Death Experiences are just a result of the brain, I have found some recent cold hard facts which may prove it is in fact a soul at work:
\nhttp:\/\/skeptiko.com\/94-jeffrey-long-near-death-experience-research\/<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/skeptiko.com\/jeffrey_long_takes_on_critics_of_evidence_of_the_afterlife\/<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/skeptiko.com\/118-jeffrey-long-responds-to-parnia\/<\/a>
\n
\nHere is a really good one which totally debunks the oxygen theory:
\nhttp:\/\/skeptiko.com\/critique-of-skeptics-guide-249\/<\/a>
\n
\nDr. Long has done so much research which shows that a lack of oxygen only causes confused hallucinations, while NDEs make sense, and are not only fragments of memory. There are also tons of verified out of body experiences, which took place while a person’s brain had no measurable activity. People have been able to travel far distances, hear conversations, and explain exactly what happened while they were out, only later to be verified. Skeptics, how would you respond to all these lines of proof that it cannot be a brain?
\n1) doctors have debunked oxygen\/hypoxia theory
\n2) drugs also cause weird hallucinations
\n3) Dr. Long’s recorded out of body experiences which took place in operating rooms came back with 97.5% accuracy
\n4) Dr. Penny Sartori has tested people who have never been in a hospital setting, asking them to guess what procedures may go on, and they all fail, yet these NDErs can report everything with close to 100% accuracy
\n5) There are no cultural differences, and all NDEs are very very similar
\n
\nHow could anyone think they are not the spirit leaving the body? So many have been verified, some people even report floating to other rooms and hearing exact conversations.
\n
\nSkeptics, enlighten me.
\n
\nAnswer by SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong>
\nThe conversation on Jeffrey Long, and the NDE material on Skeptiko in general, is already in progress here<\/a> and here<\/a>. The hypoxia issue is specifically addressed in the latter so it’s worth checking out what’s already here.
\n
\nThe crux of the issue is that these experiences have not been verified, only supported by their claimants with assertions and occasionally circumstantial evidence. If they had been verified, there would be no serious doubt that they were really NDEs. The evidence presented is good enough for the faithful, and they think this constitutes verification, but it can’t be that subjective.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Question from Mirek: for a long time, people have thought that Near Death Experiences are just a result of the brain, I have found some recent cold hard facts which may prove it is in fact a soul at work: http:\/\/skeptiko.com\/94-jeffrey-long-near-death-experience-research\/ http:\/\/skeptiko.com\/jeffrey_long_takes_on_critics_of_evidence_of_the_afterlife\/ http:\/\/skeptiko.com\/118-jeffrey-long-responds-to-parnia\/ Here is a really good one which totally debunks the oxygen theory: … Continue reading “A Dump From Skeptiko”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6],"tags":[308,690],"class_list":["post-3354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-text","tag-nde","tag-near-death-experience"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-S6","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3354","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3354"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3354\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3355,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3354\/revisions\/3355"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3354"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3354"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3354"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}