{"id":3252,"date":"2017-04-08T03:31:35","date_gmt":"2017-04-08T10:31:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3252"},"modified":"2017-04-08T03:31:35","modified_gmt":"2017-04-08T10:31:35","slug":"the-ndes-keep-coming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3252","title":{"rendered":"The NDEs Keep Coming"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Halil:<\/strong><br \/>\nHello, I wanted to know what atheists think of this testimony, and if it scares them.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.precious-testimonies.com\/BornAgain\/L-N\/LaFondT.htm\">http:\/\/www.precious-testimonies.com\/BornAgain\/L-N\/LaFondT.htm<\/a><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\nNot scary if you don&#8217;t already believe.  When trying to threaten kids about the boogeyman, they have to believe it exists to some extent before they buy into the fear.  This does not do a good job of supporting the existence of God, Hell or an afterlife at all.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nHere are some but certainly not all of the reasons why not.  Folks are free to comment and chip in.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&#8211; The guy had taken a variety of hallucinogenic drugs, some of which (e.g. LSD) can have after-effects causing hallucinations years later.<br \/>\n&#8211; His solid Catholic upbringing had primed his brain with all the imagery he needed to subconsciously pull together an authentic Christian afterlife experience for himself.<br \/>\n&#8211; His cardiologist didn&#8217;t understand how he survived, but his cardiologist wasn&#8217;t there for the accident and might not have been able to understand where the electricity traveled even if he had.  His survival is a mystery, not necessarily a miracle.<br \/>\n&#8211; His conversion came at the hands of a travelling evangelist whose day job is to give people amazing conversion experiences, and after what he&#8217;d been through he was ripe for it.<br \/>\n&#8211; His back pain appeared as mysteriously as it disappeared.  It could have been in his head, or a temporary effect of the electric shock on his back muscles, but it&#8217;s not as if a well-known chronic condition was miraculously cured.  (In a similar vein, I know of an American healer who would lay hands on people and announce that he had cured small tumours, which had never been detected beforehand and obviously didn&#8217;t show up afterwards.)<br \/>\n&#8211; This page asks for money at the bottom.  They&#8217;ll say anything, and since the story is a personal account that no one else can contradict they&#8217;re free to say anything.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Halil: Hello, I wanted to know what atheists think of this testimony, and if it scares them. http:\/\/www.precious-testimonies.com\/BornAgain\/L-N\/LaFondT.htm Answer by SmartLX: Not scary if you don&#8217;t already believe. When trying to threaten kids about the boogeyman, they have to believe it exists to some extent before they buy into the fear. This does &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=3252\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The NDEs Keep Coming&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[560,6],"tags":[148,254,308,67],"class_list":["post-3252","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-faith-2","category-text","tag-conversion","tag-hell","tag-nde","tag-near-death-experiences"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-Qs","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3252","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3252"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3252\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3254,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3252\/revisions\/3254"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3252"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3252"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3252"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}