{"id":1499,"date":"2013-05-21T22:49:43","date_gmt":"2013-05-21T12:49:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1499"},"modified":"2013-05-21T22:49:43","modified_gmt":"2013-05-21T12:49:43","slug":"right-wrong-and-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1499","title":{"rendered":"Right, Wrong, and God"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Adam:<\/strong><br \/>\nWithout God, is there right and wrong?<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\nEven with a hypothetical god around, would there be there right and wrong?<br \/>\n<br \/>\nIf God decides what is right and wrong, they are His opinions only, and subject to change.  And change they apparently have, because there are all sorts of holy rules in the old Mosaic Law that had been superceded or forgotten as early as the first century AD (or CE).  Shellfish, mixed fabrics, working on Sundays, that sort of thing.  Therefore God&#8217;s sense of right and wrong is arbitrary, and useless to us except in the sense of trying to keep up with the whims of a tyrant to save our necks.  That&#8217;s if we think He&#8217;s there at all.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nWithout a God imbuing the entire universe with an ethereal sense of right and wrong, there is only what we humans decide, as no other animal has ever set down a code of ethics or morality.  (Some groups of apes and monkeys have developed simple moral systems, but purely in practical terms rather than the abstract.)  The consensual ethics agreed upon by large groups of people are far less arbitrary than the will of an all-powerful, invincible being, because the way we want to be treated &#8211; and therefore the way we treat people &#8211; has a comprehensible effect on our wellbeing.  For example, a general aversion to killing (except in some extraordinary cases) potentially prolongs everyone&#8217;s lives.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nSo we say that certain things are right and others are wrong, and if these judgements eventually show themselves to be flawed we change them.  Regulated slavery was right and good for a very long time, but now we find it reprehensible.  We&#8217;re entitled to admit mistakes and change our positions when new information comes to light, because we&#8217;re only human and we&#8217;re doing the best we can.  A god has no such excuse; if He ever had to correct himself, He&#8217;s not much of a god.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Adam: Without God, is there right and wrong? Answer by SmartLX: Even with a hypothetical god around, would there be there right and wrong? If God decides what is right and wrong, they are His opinions only, and subject to change. And change they apparently have, because there are all sorts of holy &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1499\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Right, Wrong, and God&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6],"tags":[126,91],"class_list":["post-1499","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-text","tag-ethics","tag-morality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-ob","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1499","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1499"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1499\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1501,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1499\/revisions\/1501"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1499"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1499"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1499"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}