{"id":1266,"date":"2012-11-06T22:05:40","date_gmt":"2012-11-06T12:05:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1266"},"modified":"2012-11-06T22:05:40","modified_gmt":"2012-11-06T12:05:40","slug":"quantum-golden-ratios-whoa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1266","title":{"rendered":"Quantum Golden Ratios.  Whoa."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question from Bill:<\/strong><br \/>\nWhy is the golden ratio found in the human body, DNA, the human genome, and in subatomic particles?<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2010\/01\/100107143909.htm\">http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2010\/01\/100107143909.htm<\/a><br \/>\n<br \/>\nA pattern couldn&#8217;t just be found anywhere in the quantum world. So how do atheists respond to this?<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<strong>Answer by <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/smartlx\">SmartLX<\/a>:<\/strong><br \/>\nAs I explained <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=969\">earlier<\/a>, it is very simple to produce a Fibonacci sequence and therefore a golden ratio of 1.618 through basic, repeated, natural occurrences such as cell division, which is why it&#8217;s so common in biology.  The fact that the same appears to occur in quantum mechanics in a specific case suggests that the underlying physical mechanisms that produce these effects may make use of similar recursions.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nThe key thing about the golden ratio is that it&#8217;s an <em>emergent<\/em> phenomenon.  Like evolution, it emerges as a result when the starting conditions of a system happen to be conducive to it.  Only after it&#8217;s happened do we notice the pattern; whatever the system is, it just looks like it&#8217;s going about its business until the effect appears.  There&#8217;s no guidance and no direction necessary, it just <em>happens<\/em> &#8211; and it was already known to be so common that its emergence in the mysterious quantum world, though fascinating, is not that surprising.  It says no more about the existence of a god than any other instance of a golden ratio, so atheists will respond with the same sort of interest as everyone else.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question from Bill: Why is the golden ratio found in the human body, DNA, the human genome, and in subatomic particles? http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2010\/01\/100107143909.htm A pattern couldn&#8217;t just be found anywhere in the quantum world. So how do atheists respond to this? Answer by SmartLX: As I explained earlier, it is very simple to produce a Fibonacci &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/?p=1266\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Quantum Golden Ratios.  Whoa.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[338,337,339,63],"class_list":["post-1266","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-text","tag-fibonacci","tag-golden-ratio","tag-phi","tag-quantum-mechanics"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pB6tr-kq","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1266","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1266"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1266\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1268,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1266\/revisions\/1268"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1266"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1266"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/asktheatheist.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1266"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}