Why Atheists Don’t Worship Jesus, Because Apparently Some People Want to Know

Question from Son of David:
Hello, why don’t you have a personal relationship with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ? The Son of God. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. – John 3:16

Answer by SmartLX:
Because I’m an atheist.

All right, let’s try that again with a bit more detail. Because…

I don’t believe that Jesus is in any sense alive or capable of having a personal relationship with anyone at this point. I don’t believe a god exists, you see. Following on from that, If Jesus lived then he lived right around two thousand years ago, and I don’t believe he was the son of a nonexistent god. When he died, I don’t believe he was resurrected or that he had a soul, so based on that nothing remains of him now but some as-yet-undiscovered/unidentified human remains, plus a very popular tale. To have a one-sided relationship with half a skull and a story does not strike me as beneficial for either party, me or Jesus.

Your question combined with the core Biblical claim is of the form, “Why have you not reacted to this situation in the obviously necessary way?” It’s simply because I don’t think the situation is as you claim. I do not accept the supernatural claims of the Bible, so Bible-based assertions mean nothing to me. So what do you do when they don’t work on people, I wonder?

9 thoughts on “Why Atheists Don’t Worship Jesus, Because Apparently Some People Want to Know”

  1. I will answer this id%$#@%^&ic question before I read Smatxl’s answer.

    I don’t worship this ‘Jesus’ creature of the sickly imagination of yours for two reasons.

    One, Jesus, if this impossible character ever existed, was not ‘god’…there is no such thing. Two, in the possibility he did exist, he was either psychotic or liar.

    In both of these scenarios there is no reason to worship either an non-existent entity, much less a lunatic, even if a goody, or, the worst possible scenario, a bleeding liar.

    In the case he was, or in your uneducated and stupid opinion, god, then again I can see no reason to worship him.

    Much the same goes for my, or anybody else’s parents. After all, both he, in this idiotic scenario, ‘god’, created us for HIS reasons, that had to do with his personal needs, to kill his boredom of loneliness or futility of its existence, or whatever other immaginable reason, but HIS, having nothing to do with US, just like parents conceive and have children because THEY need them, not that children need themselves to be concieved, for the simple reason that children at the moment before their conception are non-existent and thus can have no wish for being conceived. The same goes for your ‘god’, if it does exist and if it did conceive us, so to speak, create, then it did it for its pleasure or whatever idiotic reason, not ours, because we did not exist then, so there was nobody but him to need us, much less to love us. Hahaha!!! Maybe in order to play with the idiots we are. So, I owe no gratitude to this entity, even if it exists, especially not so because it is a mean bast.ard. It wouldn’t stop evil, even thou it can, so it is mean, and if it cannot, then it is no god.

    WAKE UP.

  2. David, I don’t believe in Jesus as a god for the same reason that you don’t believe in Odin, or Zeus, or Osiris as gods- I’ve no reason to.

    You and I are both atheists, I just believe in one less god that you do…

    1. There are no historians who ever mentioned Odin or Zeus or Osiris as having actually walked upon this planet. But Jesus has been mentioned not only in the Bible but by historians who had nothing to do with writing the Bible. And neither are there religious organizations that call themselves Osirians, Odinians, or Zeusians. And as far as I know, I’ve never heard of anyone today who testifies that they have seen them and had a personal relationship with them. As the Christians say they do. Nor did they have men write down what He told them to write so that men would know who He was and how much He loved man. And, and I don’t believe there were a few, who get riled up just because others believe that Jesus is God. No. The other god’s, (and notice that I wrote this word “god’s” with a little “g”. That is because there is only one God. The others were made up by man and can do no one any good. Because they aren’t real. They, are imaginary.

      1. Gerald writes: [There are no historians who ever mentioned Odin or Zeus or Osiris as having actually walked upon this planet.]

        I guess you aren’t familiar with Hesiod? How about Homer, who wrote the Odyssey and the Iliad (among many other things)? Ignoring those Greeks, do you realize how many of the gods in the history of human imagination are credited with being on Earth? Most of the African creator gods lived on Earth until humans ticked them off and they left to go live in the sky. Did you really think the Jesus story was that special? It’s not, Gerald.

        [But Jesus has been mentioned not only in the Bible but by historians who had nothing to do with writing the Bible.]

        Which, as we’ve explained to you many times previously, those historians got their information from the Bible and were not eye witnesses to anything. Your claim is like me saying that “Percy Jackson and Lightning Thief” is historical proof of Zeus because it mentions Zeus.

        Ba’al is mentioned in many cultures, and is specifically noted in the Bible many times. Perhaps the Phoenician god is actually the real god?

        [I’ve never heard of anyone today who testifies that they have seen them and had a personal relationship with them.]

        There are Hellenic worshippers today. There are also Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Baha’i, Sikhs, Taoists, Jainists, etc. Lots of people have personal relationships that don’t involve your god.

        [Nor did they have men write down what He told them to write so that men would know who He was and how much He loved man.]

        We’ve covered how much your slave ownership approving god “loved man” in other threads: http://asktheatheist.com/?p=3505&cpage=1#comment-116875

        There are other holy books Gerald. The Vedas, the Jain Agamas, Avesta, Tao Te Ching (among others), and so on. All holy knowledge written down so that men would know whatever it was men was supposed to know. Your dogma isn’t that unique.

        [The others were made up by man and can do no one any good. Because they aren’t real. They, are imaginary]

        Like I said, everyone is an atheist Gerald. You are too. Some of us just follow the logic all the way to the end, instead of stopping just short…

  3. It’s ok. You don’t have to give any ideas. God’s Holy Spirit has that department covered.
    And until you and or others can demonstrate how what you or they say this universe and life began, then God still has that market cornered also.

    1. It is false logic to claim that the ability or inability of science to demonstrate where the universe came from is somehow related to the validity of the Biblical creation story, Gerald. There is zero evidence for the story in Genesis, and in fact there are plenty of facts in evidence that directly contradict it. There is also zero evidence for all the other creation stories from all the other religions in the world (past and present). All the creation stories from all the religions are equally unimpressive and baseless.

      Any claim must be proven on it’s own merits, on it’s own empirical evidences. None of the religious claims ever made have been able to do that. The failure of science will not make the claims of Zoroasterists or Jews or Hindus or Christians any more likely or true.

      This has, of course, been explained to you many times previously. As with everything else, you can’t seem to absorb this information and understand why your claims are illogical. One can only hope that this time will be different…

  4. I don’t have a personal relationship with Jesus, Krishna, Yahweh, Allah etc. because they just don’t come over to play no matter how much I look up and ask ’em 🙂 .
    And I got over wanting to have imaginary friends (in high places) a long time ago.
    Even the fallen one won’t come to meet me (unlike that lucky tyke … Faustus) … I am a spiritual reject of sorts.

    So I stick to the earthly.

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